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Thread: Pietta 1858 Remington repair question

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    Pietta 1858 Remington repair question

    Loading lever retainer fell out, what is the preferred method to install this part. Click image for larger version. 

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    I make a new one and dovetail it in. But if you want to keep it stock, silver solder.

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    Drill a small hole in it and use a tap out/tap extractor to remove the stub.

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    Did it break or did the solder just fail?
    If the latter, just silver solder it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 36g View Post
    Drill a small hole in it and use a tap out/tap extractor to remove the stub.
    I don’t believe it was a treaded part , there is a shallow hole drilled into the barrel and silver soldered in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobade View Post
    I make a new one and dovetail it in. But if you want to keep it stock, silver solder.
    That’s a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmacgyver0 View Post
    Did it break or did the solder just fail?
    If the latter, just silver solder it back.
    Fell out, I have a feeling it was repaired before it came to me.

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    The dovetail solution may be a march but would certainly be a one and done. Also the finish would minimally be affected verses HEAT.

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    Silver solder, if done right will hold it forever.
    The catch is, "if done right".

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    A lot is going to depend on the tools you have available and your confidence level. Soldering will hold and do the repair in factory style. The dove tail will also work but be a modification from original. Silver soldering with true silver solder is going to require heat and the correct temp flux both the heat level and flux will probably damage the bluing.
    I dont think there is enough surface area for epoxy alone to work.
    What may if the stub is a snug fit in the hole is to peen up the bottom and press it in with a light coat of red locktite..

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    with the proper tools, lathe and mill, dovetail would do the least amount of damage to the finish. A good silver solder job is plenty good but would require getting the barrel blued again. If you use low temp solder the flux will take the blue off if it is any good.

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    Looks like lead/tin base soft solder... Clean or grind off as much as you can and use silver braze with the white cream flux. You will need an oxygen-acetylene torch to melt the silver braze wire. That stud will not come off.

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    Different manufacturer, but my Uberti copy of the same model had a similar problem. The lug as still in place but wouldn’t hold the lever in place. A gunsmith at Ft Shenandoah (North-South Skirmish Association) did as someone already suggested, made a new better shaped lug and silver soldered it on. This was several years ago and I don’t shoot a lot, but it’s worked well since the repair.
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    Silver solder it is. I'll see how much it effects the finish, maybe it'll be the right amount to give it some character and not make it look like it was in a house fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashguy View Post
    Silver solder it is. I'll see how much it effects the finish....
    The finish AND maybe the heat treat? Might you get a bit of warping from the heat? I'd be careful about that. Silver soldering has a bit of skill and knowledge involved.
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