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    AR500 target sparking with lead bullets?!?

    I took some out of town folks shooting yesterday evening. We shot until close to dark. The last rifle we shot was a 458 SOCOM. I noticed a small spark when the bullets made impact with the AR500 steel?!?
    Bullet alloy was roughly 94-3-3.
    Powder coated
    300 grain round nose with a big meplat.

    I have not chronographed this load, but I think it’s in the 1,600FPS range.

    My question is what technically is causing the spark?

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    Static electricity?
    Plastic coating traveling through the air hitting a grounded target.

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    Could it possibly been a reflection off of a bullet fragment flashing in existing light? GW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry54 View Post
    Static electricity?
    Plastic coating traveling through the air hitting a grounded target.
    The steel is not grounded. It is bolted on to a 2x4 that is slid into a wood stand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G W Wade View Post
    Could it possibly been a reflection off of a bullet fragment flashing in existing light? GW
    It was cloudy and getting dark. So I don’t think so.

    I didn’t take the time to inspect the steel itself. I’ll inspect and report back.
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    Bullets GC'd?
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    It may be the bullet sliding rust or scale on the plate against the steel and producing a red hot ember or spark.This only really shows up at dusk or low light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by country gent View Post
    It may be the bullet sliding rust or scale on the plate against the steel and producing a red hot ember or spark.This only really shows up at dusk or low light.
    ^^^This^^^

    Steel will spark against something like flint because small fragments are "burned" off the surface by the rock striking the surface. The bullet is doing the same thing - I suspect if you painted the steel target, most of the sparks would cease to appear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    Bullets GC'd?
    No gas check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HWooldridge View Post
    ^^^This^^^

    Steel will spark against something like flint because small fragments are "burned" off the surface by the rock striking the surface. The bullet is doing the same thing - I suspect if you painted the steel target, most of the sparks would cease to appear.
    Ok I like this theory. I did paint it, but it may have had rust spots on the surface. Interesting.
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    I did look at the target this weekend more closely. There is a small amount of surface rust on the exposed surfaces. I had painted over it, but that makes the most sense so far. Will have to try this again.
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