On a good day with a handgun I'm very familiar with (Glock 19/26/42, BHP, S&W 10-5, Ruger single action) I can usually do something like a 2-3 " group pretty consistently at 20 yards slow fire unsupported. I will have some fliers that are totally my fault but I don't sweat 'em. Fired the Glock 19 and 26 this afternoon and made neat clusters at this distance with a few flyers from shaky hands.