Mould for a 7mm Chileno Mauser 1895

[fa38]

Any recommendations for a mold for the 7mm Chileno Mauser 1895.

Thanks.

Marty

[koehn,jim]

I have had good luck with the RCBS 145 and 168 grain loads in 7mm seat them out as far as possible and try 4895.

[fouronesix]

My 1895 Chilean really likes the Lyman 287641 cast with about a 12 BHN alloy over 18gr 5744 with dacron filler. Sized to .285 and lubed with soft BP type lube. Mild, accurate and no leading

[plainsman456]

I have been playing with the 135-9 grain Lee mold as well as a 160grain mold that I bought from some one here.
The lighter shoots to the same point of impact out to 150 yards as my 140 grain jacketed loads.
The 160 shoots somewhat lower and to the left.

That said I would not have a bad feeling with a boolit weighting 140-170 in the 7x57.

[UBER7MM]

A tight twist military Mauser should like a heavy bullet. I agree with fouronesix

Good shooting,

[Larry Gibson]

Many, if not most M95 7mms have groove diameters of .286 - .288 if the bores are in excellent condidtion. Mine is .286 and I find a heavier (150 gr+) Loverin style bullet that drops at .286+ will most often shoot well. I've an older original RCBS 28-168-FN that shoots well in my M95. Any similar Lyman mould should do as well.

Larry Gibson

[budman46]

my 7mm's (7tcu, 7mm-08 and 7x57s like lee's design with charges of 2400 giving 1800 fps, or so.

[fa38]

A friend of mine is going to lend me a RCBS 7mm 145-sil. If it works I will buy it and if not I will try one of the others suggested. Thanks
Marty

[atr]

this one shoots very very well in my 1895

[fouronesix]

A friend of mine is going to lend me a RCBS 7mm 145-sil. If it works I will buy it and if not I will try one of the others suggested. Thanks
Marty

That bullet is very similar to the Lyman 160 gr bore rider (just 15gr lighter) so it should do fine. I'd cast up maybe 15 of them with your alloy then measure the shank diameter AND the nose diameter. (if you cast 50-100 and they don't work then all the labor- gone). Compare those numbers to your rifle's groove and bore diameters. Then shoot them with a couple of different loads and see how it goes. Comparing the bullet fit to the accuracy may shed some light on what is going to work.

[Buckshot]

..................I'd slug i first. No sense paying good money for a currently available mould only to find out later you need a 'Fat' one. I do not believe any currently available designs will drop a slug much over .285". In addition all the military 7x57's were chambered for a 172 - 175gr slug. I'm personally partial to Loverin designs (eliminates the stewing and fretting over if a bore rider with ride or not) for long throats/leades.

..............Buckshot

[725]

I've got the same problem, in that I need a fat boy.

atr - What's that 287405 cast at? I surely need a .288 or better.

[atr]

the 287405 is a Loverin design,,,Buckshot is right about how useful the design is for long throats !.....
my 287405 casts consistantly at 0.2845 using wheel weights or Lyman #2 equivalent.
again Buckshot is right ..you probably won't find a current maunfactured mold which will cast much larger than 0.285. But again that Loverin design seems to do the trick at 0.2845

for comparison the jackedt bullet on the right is a 175 gr. which is what the 1895 was originally designed for
also, my 1895 was german made DWM and bore tolerances are tight at 0.286

[fa38]

From Larry Gibson
<<Many, if not most M95 7mms have groove diameters of .286 - .288 if the bores are in excellent condidtion. Mine is .286 and I find a heavier (150 gr+) Loverin style bullet that drops at .286+ will most often shoot well.>>

What do you use to size and lube your bullets? The largest sizing die from either Lyman or RCBS is .285

[frkelly74]

Has anyone tried the lee soupcan in their chileno's? Does it cast big enough?

[jonk]

I've tried the Lee with fine results; the little 130 gr job. No sizing, gas checked, double tumble lubed, 18 gr of 2400. Drops for me at about .286, which is right what my Chileno measures at. I could probably do really well if I beagled it another thousandth or two.

I have also tried more oversized RCBS 168s. DIdn't do any better.

[Larry Gibson]

From Larry Gibson
<<Many, if not most M95 7mms have groove diameters of .286 - .288 if the bores are in excellent condidtion. Mine is .286 and I find a heavier (150 gr+) Loverin style bullet that drops at .286+ will most often shoot well.>>

What do you use to size and lube your bullets? The largest sizing die from either Lyman or RCBS is .285

My original RCBS mould drops them at .287+ with the right alloy (a good balance of antimony and tin with the lead; WWs + 2 % tin or linotype + 30% lead works good). I use a custom .288 H die I got from Buckshot to just crimp the GC and lube leving the bullets as cast. BTW they are seated long with the GC not below the case neck.

Larry Gibson

[fa38]

1895 Mauser
Finally got all the stuff together to shoot my Chilino 1895 Mauser.

I purchased the NOE 287-150 Hunter because of the bullet diameters Al said it would cast at and it would only take a week to get the mould. The bullet cast .276 on the nose and .2865 on the bands. My RCBS sizing die sizes the bands .2853 or thereabouts. My scrap alloy probably casts different than what Al uses.

With the cold weather I just tried just 4 powders. Scott 3032-22 to 23.5 grs, IMR 4895-22 to 24 grs, IMR 4759-16.5 to 18 grs, and Benchmark- 20.5 to 22 grs. All in half grain increments. Benchmark shot the best at 21.5 and 22.0 grains. WLR primers, soft scrap alloy, gas checks from Blammer, R-P 06 reworked cases, my lube. No leading with any of the loads.

The target was shot at 100 yards with a heavy overcast and light mist and light winds at 8:30 in the morning. The rings on the target are ¾ inches apart (200 yard Schuetzen target)

The group consists of both the 21.5 and 22. gr. loads, seven shots each. I thought I moved the sight up one notch for the second load but maybe I didn’t (those sights leave a bit to be desired). It could also be a small change in elevation of the two loads. They printed almost on top of each other.

The shot to the left in group 2 was fired with a pick up in the light winds. Me or the wind I don’t know. The 20 and 20.5 loads were bigger than the pictured group.

I think Old Ugly did quite well. Does anyone need pictures of Old Ugly??

[PS Paul]

Did good? that looks just GREAT to me. Just got a new mold for my '95. Can't wait to cast some up this afternoon. Can't speak for anyone else, but I would like you to post photos. i love seein' 'em.

[NYBushBro]

Did you need to neck turn the '06 brass when converting them? I have a ton of mil brass and thought about running them through a 7mm die to make some up.